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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2009, 10:17:46 pm »
And my plan which would offer help in exchange for a proportion loss in sovereignty thus being an investment for us rather than a charity, is that not preferable to inaction?
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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2009, 01:18:25 am »
Gaius, how do you plan to solve overpopulation if you save every person doomed to die?

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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2009, 09:38:54 am »
legalized abortion, contraception, increased carrying capacity due to infrastructure modernization, and space colonization.
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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2009, 06:21:11 pm »
legalized abortion, contraception, increased carrying capacity due to infrastructure modernization, and space colonization.

Those things won't stop irresponsibles from breeding. Sooner or later nature must take its course.

War and death is that course. It's not our business to stop it.

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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2009, 07:27:11 pm »
I'd prefer a controlled program of economic incentives and birth control to allowing war and death to just happen whenever fate deems it appropriate.
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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2009, 11:44:12 pm »
They wouldn't allow it in this society, but I would make the incentives a test of qualities and pay incentive for the genetically superior to mate and the non to be sterilized. Right now, the "incentive" is just a desperate attempt to keep everyone alive.

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legalized abortion
This will make little difference. We've already seen that people now are getting tons of abortions, it's not enough. I suppose it may help, but drops in the bucket.

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contraception
We have that now, and it puts responsibility on the parents, with a majority not giving a **** about overpopulation, this is, again, a drop in the bucket.

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increased carrying capacity due to infrastructure modernization
It will be an endless struggle, the rate in which overpopulation is going is increasing, meaning, with the methods already mentioned, we would constantly have to upgrade at an increasing rate.

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space colonization
Which, for the reason stated above, would become harder and harder. Eventually more and more money will be put into this and eventually it will become so expensive we wont be able to do it.

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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2009, 07:55:35 pm »
The main thing I see wrong with always springing to the rescue is that the naturally forwardthinking don't get rewarded when they should be. If people want to be stupid and bellicose, it is their Fate to die.

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Re: An open question to non interventionists.
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2009, 07:14:08 pm »
The main thing I see wrong with always springing to the rescue is that the naturally forward-thinking don't stay alive when they should be. If people want to be stupid and bellicose, it is their Fate to die alone.

While I agree with your previous statement, this is my absolute biggest concern.